Michigan State Drops Wisconsin in Dramatic Fashion
It wasn't the most compelling of games until the end. The Badgers and Spartans played forty minutes of slow-paced ball to send it into overtime. The Spartans then managed to open up a six point lead with less than twenty seconds left in OT. Jordan Taylor hit a long three and Draymond Green missed two free throws to give the Badgers a chance. Ryan Evans got a rebound on the final play, ran out behind the three-point line and banked it in. The officials called it good on the court, but went to the replay to make sure it was the right call.
It wasn't. There was a discrepancy between the clock on top of the backboard and the larger one in the arena, with the backboard clock hitting 0.0 while the ball was still in Evans' hands. The lights behind the backboard were clearly lit up before he got rid of it, and that clock has the final say.
This was Wisconsin's second home loss in a row, and it was Tom Izzo's first win in the Kohl Center against Bo Ryan.
The Badgers are either going to have to start hitting more threes or stop taking so many. They are behind the eight ball in the conference race with their two home losses.
MSU is on a roll after losing to ACC powerhouses North Carolina and Duke to start the season. So far in conference play they have beaten both Indiana and Wisconsin.
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Huge huge huge W for MSU
This team began the season with zero expectations but has done some great things already and continues to improve each game.
2012 is looking like a great year to be a Spartan!
by MSUDersh on Jan 3, 2012 9:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions
The clock discrepancy is stupid, inexplicable, and I hate it.
This is a one in ten thousand times kind of fluke. And it got MSU a win.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jan 3, 2012 10:15 PM CST reply actions
this was no f@*^ fluke.MSU played better.
we were playing 5/8.You guys got bailed out on so many bullshit calls. It hurts you to lose to MSU in anything. You know what screw Wisconsin and Bo Ryan, and your new clock buddy Brett Bielema
by spartynation on Jan 3, 2012 10:25 PM CST up reply actions
I must REALLY have missed something
Am I supposed to be HAPPY about the end result in the Kohl Center? Hell no. I’m a Wisconsin fan born and cred, and what happened sickens me.
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by OBrienSchofieldismyHero on Jan 4, 2012 5:08 AM CST up reply actions
Of course you're supposed to be upset
But fluke? Hardly. A fluke would have been deciding that the “clock showing most time remaining” was the official one, like the TV announcer suggested. But OT is 5:00, not 5:00.2
by MSUDersh on Jan 4, 2012 1:49 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I really do enjoy seeing Bo Ryan cry like that
And also, that old man in the Wisconsin sweatshirt shitting himself.
i am acting like Bo now.
channeling my inner Bo Ryan. The officiating was not bad, it was pathetic. It thought I would never say this. I missed Jim Burr and Teddy Valentine.
by spartynation on Jan 3, 2012 11:28 PM CST up reply actions
I meant O'brien above you
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
Backboard clock is official. The other one not being synced up is irrelevant.
No real difference between this and any other not-quite-buzzer-beater, in terms of being a “fluke”.
I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left-hand side.
Bradley-Terry rankings for college football and basketball: because there aren't enough computer rankings already.
I have a hard time believing that the players don't instinctively look at the field clock anyway
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This was no fluke. MSU outplayed Wisky....
….the only reason you had a shot was three prayer 3-pointers you hit in the last 30 seconds. It’s not a fluke that Wisky didn’t get the last shot off in time. There’s a reason we have clocks and rules and shit like that.
Not our fault your arena people aren’t technically savvy enough to sync their equipment properly.
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I love this rivalry
I’ve vehemently hated Bo Ryan’s teams for a while time, mostly because he keeps winning against state and most the teams I cheer for lol. But ever since the two football games, both ending on very questionable calls (I was on the sideline for the Nichol Hail Mary and was convinced he DIDNT make it) and now this? Rivalry’s about to get heated, can’t wait for Bucky to come to the EL for another throw down.
Green was a beast and Wisky had no answer.
Sparty was the better team IMHO and deserved to win and I am a Badger fan. Wisky was flat pretty much the entire game (excepting Taylor in the 2nd half) and there is no excuse for that especially coming out of the Iowa loss. Clock thing was a debacle at the end but we were chasing the game at that point anyway and it was pretty clear cut from the replay so I’m not going to gnash teeth about it. After the Rose Bowl gut punch this was kind of loss was definitely not needed though.
Simply stated, if Bucky’s going to shoot in sub-20% from 3 and hoist 20+ 3-pt shots we are not going to win many (any?) ballgames no matter where they are played. Between the Iowa loss and last night we were 8-50 from 3 and those were home games.
That being said, I still feel we have an elite defense this year so it won’t take too much if we can get untracked offensively. I certainly wouldn’t mind an adjustment to our offensive philosophy away from being so 3-pt centric but the 3-pointers we’ve have been taken have for the most part been good shots taken by players who should shoot better so it may very well work itself out.
But what do you do to get untracked offensively?
Bucky’s offense last night was played 25 feet from the basket. It reminded me of Mike Davis’s teams (and I shuddered). To be fair, MSU is an excellent defensive team, and will make a lot of teams play that way. But I also watched Bucky against Carolina earlier in the season and it did not seem much different. And Carolina’s not great defensively.
Seems like they need to get more going inside to open up the outside shot. But how do you do that? Taylor’s great, but no one else seems to have either a post presence or the ability to go on the dribble. Seems like the way to defend Sconny is to let Taylor get his and make everyone else put the ball on the floor.
by hoosierdaddynow on Jan 4, 2012 11:42 AM CST up reply actions
Berggren, Brusier, and Evans are decent on the block.
I think more offense should be run through them from the block to take some of the perimeter burden off Taylor. Didn’t help that Berggren and Evans were a collective 7-28 last night but they need post touches to make the defense move and improve the flow.
Offense loosened up down the stretch a bit when Taylor committed to getting to the hoop off the dribble.
But at the end of the day this team is built around hitting a decent percentage of threes. If Wisky gets an appreciable amount of open looks from three from good ball movement with the right people shooting, that’s about all they can ask for. If they shoot like they have the last two games we have no shot. Wisky just doesn’t have the dynamic wings/slashers to change the offensive narrative and that is why the defensive approach you propose of locking down Taylor is very effective (unless of course Brust, Berggren, Gasser are shooting well).
I think we’ll shoot better as a group and finish in the top half of the B1G. But our offensive limitations are why Bucky’s ceiling is almost always Sweet-16 come March. At some point, shots don’t fall and can you adapt in a one-and-done format? Bucky has shown that they can’t.
I would agree that they need to make more of an effort to get the ball into the post, either with a feed to one of those guys, or with Taylor off the dribble. Otherwise, they won’t get the open looks against about 2/3 of the teams in the Big Ten. Anyway, best of luck to you guys, except for the game against IU in Mad City.
by hoosierdaddynow on Jan 4, 2012 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
Yeash Wisc's lack of any scoring beyond Taylor
Is really going to hurt, they will have to rely on D & rebounding to get any wins. At least the team slows the game down by design, that helps tremendously.
I’m just shocked there aren’t any 6’10" white guys that shoot all day from distance. Wisc usually specializes in those.
by MSUDersh on Jan 4, 2012 1:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Wisconsin needs players like Nankavil and Leuer.
guys who can rebound and attack the basket on the dribble. Post up moves were excellent and guys who can score despite being double teamed.
Inside play needs to step up. that is why OSU and MSU are on the top. Indiana I dont count them to win Big ten because they need to win on the road, which they have not so far.UM is a dark horse. They can challenge if they can get more play from their big men, especially Jordan Morgan, who has disappeared.

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